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	<title>Comments on: Lord of the Rings Online Free Trial</title>
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		<title>By: Ana</title>
		<link>http://dungeonrun.com/2007/08/29/lord-of-the-rings-online-free-trial/#comment-3509</link>
		<author>Ana</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 10:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>4 million characters?  Sounds like a marketing smoke screen to me.  How many alts does that include?  Some people have multiple characters.  I would be more interested to see how many paying, non-trial subscibers the game has.  WoW has the monopoly and has rightfully earned it.

I will give LOTRO a go in a year, when the economies are more developed and the social aspect is readily available.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>4 million characters?  Sounds like a marketing smoke screen to me.  How many alts does that include?  Some people have multiple characters.  I would be more interested to see how many paying, non-trial subscibers the game has.  WoW has the monopoly and has rightfully earned it.</p>
<p>I will give LOTRO a go in a year, when the economies are more developed and the social aspect is readily available.</p>
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		<title>By: Seregul</title>
		<link>http://dungeonrun.com/2007/08/29/lord-of-the-rings-online-free-trial/#comment-3510</link>
		<author>Seregul</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 11:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>'Marketing smoke screen'? I do not think Turbine's statement is misleading or untruthful but I also realize that number is not active subs.  The best was to judge the game is not by what the evil marketing type advertise but by what you see and experience. I'd suggest anyone who has a remote interest in the game to give it a try.  They may or may not like it but at least they did not have to shell out $39-49 to find that out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Marketing smoke screen&#8217;? I do not think Turbine&#8217;s statement is misleading or untruthful but I also realize that number is not active subs.  The best was to judge the game is not by what the evil marketing type advertise but by what you see and experience. I&#8217;d suggest anyone who has a remote interest in the game to give it a try.  They may or may not like it but at least they did not have to shell out $39-49 to find that out.</p>
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		<title>By: Trelon</title>
		<link>http://dungeonrun.com/2007/08/29/lord-of-the-rings-online-free-trial/#comment-3511</link>
		<author>Trelon</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 12:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Too bad they are including all the NPC's and Gold Farmers in that figure. I really wish they would release some real figures, not these silly numbers that don't mean very much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too bad they are including all the NPC&#8217;s and Gold Farmers in that figure. I really wish they would release some real figures, not these silly numbers that don&#8217;t mean very much.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle81</title>
		<link>http://dungeonrun.com/2007/08/29/lord-of-the-rings-online-free-trial/#comment-3512</link>
		<author>Kyle81</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 12:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>that is BS, why didn't they just say how many active SUBSCRIBERS they had which is the industry norm.

If its anything like WoW each player could have anywhere from 4-12 characters spread across multiple servers that they're either playing or using to 'save' their favorite names. Plus you've got all the folks who unsubscribed being counted in that figure as well since their characters weren't deleted. Seems shady accounting to me just to make a claim that they doing soooo great.

I was in the beta and besides the initial novelty it didn't seem that fun to me..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that is BS, why didn&#8217;t they just say how many active SUBSCRIBERS they had which is the industry norm.</p>
<p>If its anything like WoW each player could have anywhere from 4-12 characters spread across multiple servers that they&#8217;re either playing or using to &#8217;save&#8217; their favorite names. Plus you&#8217;ve got all the folks who unsubscribed being counted in that figure as well since their characters weren&#8217;t deleted. Seems shady accounting to me just to make a claim that they doing soooo great.</p>
<p>I was in the beta and besides the initial novelty it didn&#8217;t seem that fun to me..</p>
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		<title>By: LOTRO Information Minister Update at DungeonRun - Gaming Rants, Reviews, News</title>
		<link>http://dungeonrun.com/2007/08/29/lord-of-the-rings-online-free-trial/#comment-3514</link>
		<author>LOTRO Information Minister Update at DungeonRun - Gaming Rants, Reviews, News</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 14:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dungeonrun.com/2007/08/29/lord-of-the-rings-online-free-trial/#comment-3514</guid>
					<description>[...] our recent commentary on the LOTRO subscribers claims, Turbine&#8217;s new head of marketing had the following statement [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] our recent commentary on the LOTRO subscribers claims, Turbine&#8217;s new head of marketing had the following statement [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Seregul</title>
		<link>http://dungeonrun.com/2007/08/29/lord-of-the-rings-online-free-trial/#comment-3515</link>
		<author>Seregul</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 15:54:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dungeonrun.com/2007/08/29/lord-of-the-rings-online-free-trial/#comment-3515</guid>
					<description>[Comment ID #3511 Will Be Quoted Here]

Gold farmers, NPCs?  For a second I thought this was a serious comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote class='comment_quote'><p><a href="http://dungeonrun.com/2007/08/29/lord-of-the-rings-online-free-trial/#comment-3511" title="Click here to view the original comment"><em>Trelon on August 30, 2007 at 6:40 am said:</em></a></p>
<p>Too bad they are including all the NPC&#8217;s and Gold Farmers in that figure. I really wish they would release some real figures, not these silly numbers that don&#8217;t mean very much.</p></blockquote>
<p>Gold farmers, NPCs?  For a second I thought this was a serious comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Seregul</title>
		<link>http://dungeonrun.com/2007/08/29/lord-of-the-rings-online-free-trial/#comment-3516</link>
		<author>Seregul</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 15:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dungeonrun.com/2007/08/29/lord-of-the-rings-online-free-trial/#comment-3516</guid>
					<description>[Comment ID #3512 Will Be Quoted Here]


What MMO publishes their currently active subscriber numbers?  WoW surely doesn't.  And does it really matter? As long as there are players in the area you are at with your toon does it really matter how many total subs there are?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote class='comment_quote'><p><a href="http://dungeonrun.com/2007/08/29/lord-of-the-rings-online-free-trial/#comment-3512" title="Click here to view the original comment"><em>Kyle81 on August 30, 2007 at 6:50 am said:</em></a></p>
<p>that is BS, why didn&#8217;t they just say how many active SUBSCRIBERS they had which is the industry norm.</p>
<p>If its anything like WoW each player could have anywhere from 4-12 characters spread across multiple servers that they&#8217;re either playing or using to &#8217;save&#8217; their favorite names. Plus you&#8217;ve got all the folks who unsubscribed being counted in that figure as well since their characters weren&#8217;t deleted. Seems shady accounting to me just to make a claim that they doing soooo great.</p>
<p>I was in the beta and besides the initial novelty it didn&#8217;t seem that fun to me..</p></blockquote>
<p>What MMO publishes their currently active subscriber numbers?  WoW surely doesn&#8217;t.  And does it really matter? As long as there are players in the area you are at with your toon does it really matter how many total subs there are?</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://dungeonrun.com/2007/08/29/lord-of-the-rings-online-free-trial/#comment-3517</link>
		<author>Scott</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dungeonrun.com/2007/08/29/lord-of-the-rings-online-free-trial/#comment-3517</guid>
					<description>It matters when its a marketing department trying to inflate the status of their product or service, especially to the point of absurdity. ;)

Most MMORPG's report on their subscriber counts in press releases or SEC reports. WoW has reported on their subscriber count broken down by region since they launced (their last count was 9 million active subscription accounts).

Only when a MMO is on the decline do they tend to stop releasing numbers or hide/inflate their login count number's like EQ did many years ago.

Of course people are going to tease and give Turbine a good ribbing over this. No need to get defensive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It matters when its a marketing department trying to inflate the status of their product or service, especially to the point of absurdity. <img src='http://dungeonrun.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Most MMORPG&#8217;s report on their subscriber counts in press releases or SEC reports. WoW has reported on their subscriber count broken down by region since they launced (their last count was 9 million active subscription accounts).</p>
<p>Only when a MMO is on the decline do they tend to stop releasing numbers or hide/inflate their login count number&#8217;s like EQ did many years ago.</p>
<p>Of course people are going to tease and give Turbine a good ribbing over this. No need to get defensive.</p>
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		<title>By: Talyn</title>
		<link>http://dungeonrun.com/2007/08/29/lord-of-the-rings-online-free-trial/#comment-3526</link>
		<author>Talyn</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 20:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dungeonrun.com/2007/08/29/lord-of-the-rings-online-free-trial/#comment-3526</guid>
					<description>Yeah, it's a stupid marketing trick and I'm sure someone at Turbine PR knew better, but hey... it's there now.

I haven't seen a single MMORPG *EVER* release current active subscriber numbers. Blizzard announces *milestones* such as each million active subscribers, but they don't release actual numbers such as "Today, Sept 3 2007 WoW has 9,374,289 active subscribers, 2,712,337 of whom logged in during 'prime time hours' blahblahblah"  Nor does anyone else.

I'm sure Turbine will happily announce their first million active subscribers when they get there, as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, it&#8217;s a stupid marketing trick and I&#8217;m sure someone at Turbine PR knew better, but hey&#8230; it&#8217;s there now.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t seen a single MMORPG *EVER* release current active subscriber numbers. Blizzard announces *milestones* such as each million active subscribers, but they don&#8217;t release actual numbers such as &#8220;Today, Sept 3 2007 WoW has 9,374,289 active subscribers, 2,712,337 of whom logged in during &#8216;prime time hours&#8217; blahblahblah&#8221;  Nor does anyone else.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure Turbine will happily announce their first million active subscribers when they get there, as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Zubon</title>
		<link>http://dungeonrun.com/2007/08/29/lord-of-the-rings-online-free-trial/#comment-3528</link>
		<author>Zubon</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 23:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;em&gt;I haven’t seen a single MMORPG *EVER* release current active subscriber numbers.&lt;/em&gt;

Doesn't EVE Online announce that?  Second Life has its numbers about how many accounts exist and have logged on in the past X days.  A Tale in the Desert has an in-game census that lists how many active accounts there are and how many people have reached point X in the game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>I haven’t seen a single MMORPG *EVER* release current active subscriber numbers.</em></p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t EVE Online announce that?  Second Life has its numbers about how many accounts exist and have logged on in the past X days.  A Tale in the Desert has an in-game census that lists how many active accounts there are and how many people have reached point X in the game.</p>
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		<title>By: matess</title>
		<link>http://dungeonrun.com/2007/08/29/lord-of-the-rings-online-free-trial/#comment-3537</link>
		<author>matess</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 09:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>hi maybe u should put that we can try to be one of the characters of the felowship of the ring like gandalf aragorn and more</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi maybe u should put that we can try to be one of the characters of the felowship of the ring like gandalf aragorn and more</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://dungeonrun.com/2007/08/29/lord-of-the-rings-online-free-trial/#comment-3552</link>
		<author>Justin</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 07:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dungeonrun.com/2007/08/29/lord-of-the-rings-online-free-trial/#comment-3552</guid>
					<description>[Comment ID #3516 Will Be Quoted Here]

Actually Wow does publish their subscriber number.  its 9-10 million subscribers world wide.  they even pbulish their demographics; There are more than 2 million players in North America, 1.5 million players in Europe and 3.5 million players in China as of January, 2007.  cited from wiki.  

Hell the number of subscribers is even in their freakin trailer.  

EveOnline also publishes with their subscriber number at 200,000 as of september 2007.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote class='comment_quote'><p><a href="http://dungeonrun.com/2007/08/29/lord-of-the-rings-online-free-trial/#comment-3516" title="Click here to view the original comment"><em>Seregul on August 30, 2007 at 9:57 am said:</em></a></p>
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<blockquote class='comment_quote'><p><a href="http://dungeonrun.com/2007/08/29/lord-of-the-rings-online-free-trial/#comment-3512" title="Click here to view the original comment"><em>Kyle81 on August 30, 2007 at 6:50 am said:</em></a></p>
<p>that is BS, why didn&#8217;t they just say how many active SUBSCRIBERS they had which is the industry norm.</p>
<p>If its anything like WoW each player could have anywhere from 4-12 characters spread across multiple servers that they&#8217;re either playing or using to &#8217;save&#8217; their favorite names. Plus you&#8217;ve got all the folks who unsubscribed being counted in that figure as well since their characters weren&#8217;t deleted. Seems shady accounting to me just to make a claim that they doing soooo great.</p>
<p>I was in the beta and besides the initial novelty it didn&#8217;t seem that fun to me..</p></blockquote>
<p>What MMO publishes their currently active subscriber numbers?  WoW surely doesn&#8217;t.  And does it really matter? As long as there are players in the area you are at with your toon does it really matter how many total subs there are?</p>
<p>Actually Wow does publish their subscriber number.  its 9-10 million subscribers world wide.  they even pbulish their demographics; There are more than 2 million players in North America, 1.5 million players in Europe and 3.5 million players in China as of January, 2007.  cited from wiki.  </p>
<p>Hell the number of subscribers is even in their freakin trailer.  </p>
<p>EveOnline also publishes with their subscriber number at 200,000 as of september 2007.</p>
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