Comments on: Ubisoft Having Second Thoughts on Starforce? http://dungeonrun.com/2006/04/12/ubisoft-having-second-thoughts-on-starforce/ How is your gaming kung foo? Wed, 07 Jan 2009 02:04:40 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.1.3 By: Marduke_Lord_of_All http://dungeonrun.com/2006/04/12/ubisoft-having-second-thoughts-on-starforce/#comment-212 Marduke_Lord_of_All Wed, 12 Apr 2006 18:58:08 +0000 http://dungeonrun.com/2006/04/12/ubisoft-having-second-thoughts-on-starforce/#comment-212 Finally... heck even on my God PC I would never put Starforce on it... Finally… heck even on my God PC I would never put Starforce on it…

]]> By: Koskun http://dungeonrun.com/2006/04/12/ubisoft-having-second-thoughts-on-starforce/#comment-213 Koskun Wed, 12 Apr 2006 20:18:40 +0000 http://dungeonrun.com/2006/04/12/ubisoft-having-second-thoughts-on-starforce/#comment-213 I too have to say Finally. Something must of happened then, I was in the beta for that and the beta has Starforce in it. I too have to say Finally.

Something must of happened then, I was in the beta for that and the beta has Starforce in it.

]]> By: Matt http://dungeonrun.com/2006/04/12/ubisoft-having-second-thoughts-on-starforce/#comment-214 Matt Wed, 12 Apr 2006 20:20:44 +0000 http://dungeonrun.com/2006/04/12/ubisoft-having-second-thoughts-on-starforce/#comment-214 Wow, even beta had Starforce? I wonder what they hoped to accomplish by doing that? Wow, even beta had Starforce? I wonder what they hoped to accomplish by doing that?

]]> By: Koskun http://dungeonrun.com/2006/04/12/ubisoft-having-second-thoughts-on-starforce/#comment-215 Koskun Wed, 12 Apr 2006 20:35:29 +0000 http://dungeonrun.com/2006/04/12/ubisoft-having-second-thoughts-on-starforce/#comment-215 BTW I digged it. :D BTW I digged it. :D

]]> By: Matt http://dungeonrun.com/2006/04/12/ubisoft-having-second-thoughts-on-starforce/#comment-216 Matt Wed, 12 Apr 2006 21:52:59 +0000 http://dungeonrun.com/2006/04/12/ubisoft-having-second-thoughts-on-starforce/#comment-216 According to <a href="http://forums-fr.ubi.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/7501009903/m/9071096924/r/7911042234#7911042234" rel="nofollow">this French forum post</a>, Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter for the PC won't have Starforce, either. According to this French forum post, Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter for the PC won’t have Starforce, either.

]]> By: Matt http://dungeonrun.com/2006/04/12/ubisoft-having-second-thoughts-on-starforce/#comment-217 Matt Wed, 12 Apr 2006 21:58:52 +0000 http://dungeonrun.com/2006/04/12/ubisoft-having-second-thoughts-on-starforce/#comment-217 In the post about Gearbox's new Brothers in Arms game, Randy Pitchfork who works at Gearbox said this (<a href="http://www.bluesnews.com/cgi-bin/board.pl?action=viewthread&threadid=66354" rel="nofollow">see comment #6</a>) when someone mentioned Starforce (BiA is published by Ubisoft): <blockquote>We're going to involve ourselves with the copy protection decision this time.</blockquote> In the post about Gearbox’s new Brothers in Arms game, Randy Pitchfork who works at Gearbox said this (see comment #6) when someone mentioned Starforce (BiA is published by Ubisoft):

We’re going to involve ourselves with the copy protection decision this time.

]]> By: TerroristBush http://dungeonrun.com/2006/04/12/ubisoft-having-second-thoughts-on-starforce/#comment-220 TerroristBush Thu, 13 Apr 2006 08:32:48 +0000 http://dungeonrun.com/2006/04/12/ubisoft-having-second-thoughts-on-starforce/#comment-220 Darn, I started developing an exploit that can be used with starforce. I am making it like a worm virus that spreads and once infected to machines with starforce it will restart the computer once any key on the home row is pushed ;) Very small file size too! Darn, I started developing an exploit that can be used with starforce. I am making it like a worm virus that spreads and once infected to machines with starforce it will restart the computer once any key on the home row is pushed ;) Very small file size too!

]]> By: Aequitas http://dungeonrun.com/2006/04/12/ubisoft-having-second-thoughts-on-starforce/#comment-221 Aequitas Thu, 13 Apr 2006 08:38:20 +0000 http://dungeonrun.com/2006/04/12/ubisoft-having-second-thoughts-on-starforce/#comment-221 Oh thank your various gods. I love the ubi suite of games but the friggin starforce that they put on annoys me no end. Now I just want patches to be released cutting starforce out of the older games. -Aeq Oh thank your various gods. I love the ubi suite of games but the friggin starforce that they put on annoys me no end.

Now I just want patches to be released cutting starforce out of the older games.

-Aeq

]]> By: Razor http://dungeonrun.com/2006/04/12/ubisoft-having-second-thoughts-on-starforce/#comment-222 Razor Thu, 13 Apr 2006 08:51:13 +0000 http://dungeonrun.com/2006/04/12/ubisoft-having-second-thoughts-on-starforce/#comment-222 Starforce is one of the reasons I stopped buying games. Steam being the other. Its demise can only be seen by the customer base, and the industry at large, as a huge leap forward. Why the hell should we be forced to run extra software on our machines just to play games we have legitimately obtained? That we have paid our hard earned money for? Its moronic, and until it ceases completely myself and many other's like me will not be spending any money on games. There is a huge back catalogue of old PC games, emulated stuff and freeware to play, why would I pay people to bork/slow down my box? Starforce is one of the reasons I stopped buying games. Steam being the other.

Its demise can only be seen by the customer base, and the industry at large, as a huge leap forward.

Why the hell should we be forced to run extra software on our machines just to play games we have legitimately obtained? That we have paid our hard earned money for? Its moronic, and until it ceases completely myself and many other’s like me will not be spending any money on games.

There is a huge back catalogue of old PC games, emulated stuff and freeware to play, why would I pay people to bork/slow down my box?

]]> By: random_guy http://dungeonrun.com/2006/04/12/ubisoft-having-second-thoughts-on-starforce/#comment-223 random_guy Thu, 13 Apr 2006 09:30:06 +0000 http://dungeonrun.com/2006/04/12/ubisoft-having-second-thoughts-on-starforce/#comment-223 The reason that starforce is put into a demo is to prevent hackers working a crack around the protection before a game is released, starforce encrypts .exe and .dll files, so they put in on a demo for increased security. (basically: this stops hackers studying the demo code to figure out how the real game works) The reason that starforce is put into a demo is to prevent hackers working a crack around the protection before a game is released, starforce encrypts .exe and .dll files, so they put in on a demo for increased security. (basically: this stops hackers studying the demo code to figure out how the real game works)

]]> By: Anonymous http://dungeonrun.com/2006/04/12/ubisoft-having-second-thoughts-on-starforce/#comment-224 Anonymous Thu, 13 Apr 2006 09:50:29 +0000 http://dungeonrun.com/2006/04/12/ubisoft-having-second-thoughts-on-starforce/#comment-224 ubisoft tres bien! those guys are nothing more then thugs who extort customers and game makers. I applaud you! ubisoft tres bien!

those guys are nothing more then thugs who extort customers and game makers. I applaud you!

]]> By: web design london http://dungeonrun.com/2006/04/12/ubisoft-having-second-thoughts-on-starforce/#comment-228 web design london Thu, 13 Apr 2006 13:38:09 +0000 http://dungeonrun.com/2006/04/12/ubisoft-having-second-thoughts-on-starforce/#comment-228 Doh I hope they go ahead with it! Doh I hope they go ahead with it!

]]> By: Kragon http://dungeonrun.com/2006/04/12/ubisoft-having-second-thoughts-on-starforce/#comment-230 Kragon Thu, 13 Apr 2006 16:22:46 +0000 http://dungeonrun.com/2006/04/12/ubisoft-having-second-thoughts-on-starforce/#comment-230 Sweet! I have stopped buying games with starforce so this is good news to me. Sweet! I have stopped buying games with starforce so this is good news to me.

]]> By: anonymous http://dungeonrun.com/2006/04/12/ubisoft-having-second-thoughts-on-starforce/#comment-232 anonymous Thu, 13 Apr 2006 18:05:18 +0000 http://dungeonrun.com/2006/04/12/ubisoft-having-second-thoughts-on-starforce/#comment-232 Good Bye Starforce, you suck!!! Good Bye Starforce, you suck!!!

]]> By: KiTA http://dungeonrun.com/2006/04/12/ubisoft-having-second-thoughts-on-starforce/#comment-233 KiTA Thu, 13 Apr 2006 18:24:24 +0000 http://dungeonrun.com/2006/04/12/ubisoft-having-second-thoughts-on-starforce/#comment-233 <blockquote>Wow, even beta had Starforce? I wonder what they hoped to accomplish by doing that?</blockquote> Starforce requires even Betas and Demos to have Starforce, if the eventual product will. In theory, this prevents people from cracking Starforce. In actuality, all it is is a nice way to get your rootkit trojan masqurading as DRM onto as many PCs as possible. Don't think it's a rootkit? The latest versions of Starforce force your computer to reboot if you open up Nero or any IMAPI (CD Burning) software with a Starforce protected CD in the drive. This is not "DRM" anymore, it's "We feel we own your PC, so we can decide what runs and what doesn't."

Wow, even beta had Starforce? I wonder what they hoped to accomplish by doing that?

Starforce requires even Betas and Demos to have Starforce, if the eventual product will. In theory, this prevents people from cracking Starforce. In actuality, all it is is a nice way to get your rootkit trojan masqurading as DRM onto as many PCs as possible.

Don’t think it’s a rootkit? The latest versions of Starforce force your computer to reboot if you open up Nero or any IMAPI (CD Burning) software with a Starforce protected CD in the drive. This is not “DRM” anymore, it’s “We feel we own your PC, so we can decide what runs and what doesn’t.”

]]> By: nik http://dungeonrun.com/2006/04/12/ubisoft-having-second-thoughts-on-starforce/#comment-234 nik Thu, 13 Apr 2006 18:57:11 +0000 http://dungeonrun.com/2006/04/12/ubisoft-having-second-thoughts-on-starforce/#comment-234 star force sucks balls star force sucks balls

]]> By: Mike http://dungeonrun.com/2006/04/12/ubisoft-having-second-thoughts-on-starforce/#comment-235 Mike Thu, 13 Apr 2006 19:29:14 +0000 http://dungeonrun.com/2006/04/12/ubisoft-having-second-thoughts-on-starforce/#comment-235 I think we need to file a class action lawsuit against starforce. If my son left one of his games in the PC and I go to backup my work data to a CD and apoun open up nero, my PC crashes, Im going to be one very pissed off camper. Someone should make a game based on starforces company building. The goal is to assisinate all the workers as they leave their building. I think we need to file a class action lawsuit against starforce. If my son left one of his games in the PC and I go to backup my work data to a CD and apoun open up nero, my PC crashes, Im going to be one very pissed off camper.

Someone should make a game based on starforces company building. The goal is to assisinate all the workers as they leave their building.

]]> By: Jak’s Ramblings » Linkage for April 13th http://dungeonrun.com/2006/04/12/ubisoft-having-second-thoughts-on-starforce/#comment-236 Jak’s Ramblings » Linkage for April 13th Fri, 14 Apr 2006 02:47:43 +0000 http://dungeonrun.com/2006/04/12/ubisoft-having-second-thoughts-on-starforce/#comment-236 [...] News Ubisoft Dropping Starforce Afghans selling US army secrets on USB Drives Blizzard Bans 5,400 WoW Users and Suspends Over 10,000 More Lucent Technologies Sues Microsoft Over Xbox 360 Battlestar Galactica game under consideration Spy Hunter movie script leaked? 1930’s Noir Title announced for Revolution - Entirely in Black and White Vista Aero Unavailable for Pirates Girl’s heart restarted after ten years Coca-Cola with Real Coca Leaves Bottled by Indigenous Tribe 200 GB Blu-Ray Drive? Sega Handheld is April Fools Joke ‘South Park’ Creators Skewer Own Network [...] […] News Ubisoft Dropping Starforce Afghans selling US army secrets on USB Drives Blizzard Bans 5,400 WoW Users and Suspends Over 10,000 More Lucent Technologies Sues Microsoft Over Xbox 360 Battlestar Galactica game under consideration Spy Hunter movie script leaked? 1930’s Noir Title announced for Revolution - Entirely in Black and White Vista Aero Unavailable for Pirates Girl’s heart restarted after ten years Coca-Cola with Real Coca Leaves Bottled by Indigenous Tribe 200 GB Blu-Ray Drive? Sega Handheld is April Fools Joke ‘South Park’ Creators Skewer Own Network […]

]]> By: Ubisoft’s Official Response On Starforce at foogaming http://dungeonrun.com/2006/04/12/ubisoft-having-second-thoughts-on-starforce/#comment-237 Ubisoft’s Official Response On Starforce at foogaming Fri, 14 Apr 2006 06:05:12 +0000 http://dungeonrun.com/2006/04/12/ubisoft-having-second-thoughts-on-starforce/#comment-237 [...] Well, we heard it from their forums, but now Ubisoft has told 1UP the official word on Starforce. It looks like all the complaining has gotten to the suits. When questioned Ubisoft represnetatives told 1UP, “Right now, Ubisoft has decided to use an alternative copy protection system to Starforce for upcoming releases and we are investigating other possible steps at this time.” [...] […] Well, we heard it from their forums, but now Ubisoft has told 1UP the official word on Starforce. It looks like all the complaining has gotten to the suits. When questioned Ubisoft represnetatives told 1UP, “Right now, Ubisoft has decided to use an alternative copy protection system to Starforce for upcoming releases and we are investigating other possible steps at this time.” […]

]]> By: Azazel http://dungeonrun.com/2006/04/12/ubisoft-having-second-thoughts-on-starforce/#comment-514 Azazel Sat, 27 May 2006 05:47:21 +0000 http://dungeonrun.com/2006/04/12/ubisoft-having-second-thoughts-on-starforce/#comment-514 If your PC is crashing when you open up any burning software then you got other problems, starforce running or not. If your PC is crashing when you open up any burning software then you got other problems, starforce running or not.

]]> By: HAWK33 http://dungeonrun.com/2006/04/12/ubisoft-having-second-thoughts-on-starforce/#comment-1290 HAWK33 Thu, 22 Jun 2006 02:06:04 +0000 http://dungeonrun.com/2006/04/12/ubisoft-having-second-thoughts-on-starforce/#comment-1290 UBISOFT is a joke with or with out starforce, I bought a game Blazing Angels and have had it for 5 months and haven't been able to play it yet. It doen't map joystick correctly and everyone was bitching about it so they put out a patch that did nothing to fix any of the problems and so ther was more bitching and yet another patch has been released and it also does nothing, I mean realy ...who would put out a flight sim that won't see a joystick right this is totaly stupid and they can't even get it right after 2 patches I have 5 joystics and all diff makers and none of them work right on this game so I can't get my money back because it is open software so what i did just to make me feel better is go to the nearest best buy and bought another copy and scratched the shit out of the disk and took it back as defective disk and did this to every copy on the shelf they kept replacing with the same disk so i kept giving them back the same problem hehehe I got 5 copies and wrecked them all so now there will be 5 people out there that don't have to suffer the same crappy gamming shit from UBI UBISOFT is a joke with or with out starforce,

I bought a game Blazing Angels and have had it for 5 months and haven’t been able to play it yet. It doen’t map joystick correctly and everyone was bitching about it so they put out a patch that did nothing to fix any of the problems and so ther was more bitching and yet another patch has been released and it also does nothing, I mean realy …who would put out a flight sim that won’t see a joystick right this is totaly stupid and they can’t even get it right after 2 patches I have 5 joystics and all diff makers and none of them work right on this game so I can’t get my money back because it is open software so what i did just to make me feel better is go to the nearest best buy and bought another copy and scratched the shit out of the disk and took it back as defective disk and did this to every copy on the shelf they kept replacing with the same disk so i kept giving them back the same problem hehehe
I got 5 copies and wrecked them all so now there will be 5 people out there that don’t have to suffer the same crappy gamming shit from UBI

]]> By: HAWK33 http://dungeonrun.com/2006/04/12/ubisoft-having-second-thoughts-on-starforce/#comment-1291 HAWK33 Thu, 22 Jun 2006 02:10:47 +0000 http://dungeonrun.com/2006/04/12/ubisoft-having-second-thoughts-on-starforce/#comment-1291 http://www.glop.org/starforce/ this will help ya learn about starforce and what it is and what it can do to realy mess up your computer and your sanity http://www.glop.org/starforce/

this will help ya learn about starforce and what it is and what it can do to realy mess up your computer and your sanity

]]> By: HAWK33 http://dungeonrun.com/2006/04/12/ubisoft-having-second-thoughts-on-starforce/#comment-1292 HAWK33 Thu, 22 Jun 2006 02:12:20 +0000 http://dungeonrun.com/2006/04/12/ubisoft-having-second-thoughts-on-starforce/#comment-1292 Azazel I think u need to read a bit more befor making a comment like that starphuck is bad ok Azazel I think u need to read a bit more befor making a comment like that starphuck is bad ok

]]> By: The World of Jakanden » Linkage for April 13th http://dungeonrun.com/2006/04/12/ubisoft-having-second-thoughts-on-starforce/#comment-1878 The World of Jakanden » Linkage for April 13th Wed, 28 Jun 2006 09:47:26 +0000 http://dungeonrun.com/2006/04/12/ubisoft-having-second-thoughts-on-starforce/#comment-1878 [...] News Ubisoft Dropping Starforce Afghans selling US army secrets on USB Drives Blizzard Bans 5,400 WoW Users and Suspends Over 10,000 More Lucent Technologies Sues Microsoft Over Xbox 360 Battlestar Galactica game under consideration Spy Hunter movie script leaked? 1930’s Noir Title announced for Revolution - Entirely in Black and White Vista Aero Unavailable for Pirates Girl’s heart restarted after ten years Coca-Cola with Real Coca Leaves Bottled by Indigenous Tribe 200 GB Blu-Ray Drive? Sega Handheld is April Fools Joke ‘South Park’ Creators Skewer Own Network [...] […] News Ubisoft Dropping Starforce Afghans selling US army secrets on USB Drives Blizzard Bans 5,400 WoW Users and Suspends Over 10,000 More Lucent Technologies Sues Microsoft Over Xbox 360 Battlestar Galactica game under consideration Spy Hunter movie script leaked? 1930’s Noir Title announced for Revolution - Entirely in Black and White Vista Aero Unavailable for Pirates Girl’s heart restarted after ten years Coca-Cola with Real Coca Leaves Bottled by Indigenous Tribe 200 GB Blu-Ray Drive? Sega Handheld is April Fools Joke ‘South Park’ Creators Skewer Own Network […]

]]> By: Skullster http://dungeonrun.com/2006/04/12/ubisoft-having-second-thoughts-on-starforce/#comment-2935 Skullster Sat, 05 Aug 2006 15:05:11 +0000 http://dungeonrun.com/2006/04/12/ubisoft-having-second-thoughts-on-starforce/#comment-2935 To defend any such cd protection as some here have, is lame. I am sick and tired of purchasing software that installs CRAP wether I want it to or not, or bogs down my system to no end. EVERY protection made to date has a crack, or work around. So much for protection. The people who DO steal know how to work around all protections. The honest people who actually BUY their games are less informed about hacking/cracking, and are most affected by this crap. Time for software companies to go back to tried and truthful ways of marketing their software if they wish to make a profit. 1)Offer software at a realistic (yet profitable) price. Ever see a game list at prerelease for $50.......then drop to $35 when it actually comes and they don't have the pre-orders they expected? 2)Offer "Bonus" addons with retail packages. Coupons for freebies, holograms, or collectable pieces for true gamers. Coupons for free addons via web, ect... To defend any such cd protection as some here have, is lame. I am sick and tired of purchasing software that installs CRAP wether I want it to or not, or bogs down my system to no end. EVERY protection made to date has a crack, or work around. So much for protection. The people who DO steal know how to work around all protections. The honest people who actually BUY their games are less informed about hacking/cracking, and are most affected by this crap. Time for software companies to go back to tried and truthful ways of marketing their software if they wish to make a profit.
1)Offer software at a realistic (yet profitable) price. Ever see a game list at prerelease for $50…….then drop to $35 when it actually comes and they don’t have the pre-orders they expected? 2)Offer “Bonus” addons with retail packages. Coupons for freebies, holograms, or collectable pieces for true gamers. Coupons for free addons via web, ect…

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